Hangfin
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| 06/10/2008 10:00 PM |
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I think he said black guys! |
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John white
Pro Racers
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| 06/12/2008 6:49 AM |
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Mr 372 you should know better than any body given the shell answer man status of yours. Read your last newsletter that should give an idea. Nothing but .....
Hows you doing Tony? If you ever get down this way give me a call maybe we can do some fishing and remember how great we were lol. Oh oh wait are you still testing lmao. Hope your getting around better take care my friend! |
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Juan Blanco
You can not fix stupid and you can not argue with ignorance |
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Duane B Sims
aka "The Admin"
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| 06/12/2008 8:52 AM |
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| John, What newsletter? Please do share! |
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Get Interactive and let's Preserve the Past, Report the Present and Promote the Future through Teamwork and Technology! |
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John white
Pro Racers
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| 06/12/2008 9:51 AM |
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Daune I will say this it was clear as mud. The Old NDBA rule book was quoted as to the reason monies were not returned at Waco but it made reference to the new rule book but at the membership meeting it was stated that no rule changes so therefore the OLD NDBA rule book would be enforced. Sounds like the big chief is out and the pencil is sharpen. This weekend you may see another prime example lets hope not.
I always thought it was about doing the right thing guess I could have saved alot of sleepless nights and maybe kept a few hairs lol.
Certain times promoters/organizations cannot afford to do it as a racer I was always first to say if they need it let them have it but we were given a choice. But when you collect test-n-tune plus (I heard) a good gate there is enough to cover your cost! Many would come to me even after we offered the refund and would say keep it. They had a CHOICE "nothing but class". Black eye only time will tell????? |
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Juan Blanco
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Robert Mills
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| 06/12/2008 11:39 AM |
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You know I have been sitting back waiting for the Waco deal to come up and after all this time it here it is in the open. What SDBA did to the members is pure BS and they did it with a smile on there face.
Now what happens if Lubbock or SA or FW gets weathered out does there promotors keep there monies and it still turns out to be a green day for them and once again the racers lose out?? Does SDBA know they set a precedence by what they did so the promotors have a free run on rain outs
Or is it because it was promoted by SDBA the racers should lose and the organization gets there pockets and accounts bigger?
Or is it because ME372 said it would be OK to screw he racers so its OK
Just look at one of the best races in the country it is not going to happen and WHY is that??? Mr Brown did above and beyound what he had to do and is still shamed by some racers and some sanctioning body?? And yes the bounty was not paid from the year before over and insurance deal but when can you trust an insurance company anyways he paid his premiun not his fault.
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Duane B Sims
aka "The Admin"
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| 06/12/2008 12:49 PM |
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Posted By Robert Mills on 06/12/2008 11:39 AM Or is it because it was promoted by SDBA the racers should lose and the organization gets there pockets and accounts bigger?
I am sure I will be corrected but is the SDBA not a racer owned association unlike the IHBA
To quote "organization gets there pockets and accounts bigger?"
If not racer owned who is the association with fatter pockets? |
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John white
Pro Racers
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| 06/13/2008 12:17 PM |
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Duane at the banquet it was stated over and over that SDBA is a memember owned org then also in the newsletter it has been printed. The memembership own it but only a few control it.
I actually always said it was a membership driven org because of liability. How would you like to know that because something happen that you had NO say you could be tied up in a law suit? Hmmm do I need to provide examples? |
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Juan Blanco
You can not fix stupid and you can not argue with ignorance |
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Cheyenne 372
Pro Racers
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| 06/16/2008 10:25 AM |
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Posted By John white on 06/12/2008 9:51 AM
The Old NDBA rule book was quoted as to the reason monies were not returned at Waco but it made reference to the new rule book but at the membership meeting it was stated that no rule changes so therefore the OLD NDBA rule book would be enforced.
John:
Since you are still the President of the NDBA (whatever the hell that really is....!!!), why don't you explain why there was not a meeting between the associations last year and why there was not a new rulebook printed.
As you have pointed out ad nauseum, there seems to be plenty of things that the, in your opinion, need to be corrected to move the sport forward and I'm a little surprised that there was no annual meeting of the NDBA to cuss and discuss anything.
As the President, I would think that you you should be actively involved in helping to further those efforts instead of posts as noted above.
Sincerely,
The Shell Answer Man
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John white
Pro Racers
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| 06/17/2008 9:16 AM |
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Dear Mr Shell Answer man,
That is a good question however your asking the wrong person. The new sheriff spoke to Fred and they decided that there were no rule changes so no new rule book was needed this conversation happened before the banquets.
I have a question for you. Did the SDBA board remove me from the NDBA represenatives for SDBA? If not, was I invited to the SDBA board meeting to discuss NDBA bussiness?
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Juan Blanco
You can not fix stupid and you can not argue with ignorance |
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Cheyenne 372
Pro Racers
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| 06/17/2008 1:58 PM |
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Posted By John white on 06/17/2008 9:16 AM
Dear Mr Shell Answer man,
That is a good question however your asking the wrong person. The new sheriff spoke to Fred and they decided that there were no rule changes so no new rule book was needed this conversation happened before the banquets.
I have a question for you. Did the SDBA board remove me from the NDBA represenatives for SDBA? If not, was I invited to the SDBA board meeting to discuss NDBA bussiness?
John:
You're right....it is a good question and a question directed at the person it should be directed at....the PRESIDENT of the NDBA....and unless I'm mistaken, that person is YOU...!!
So instead of dancing around the issue and answering questions with questions all the while trying to place blame on others, please be man enough to say publically, that at the time that NDBA business needed to be tended to, you were too busy with your marketing venture and neglected your obligations to the NDBA.
Fred and Mike, as leaders of their respective associations, talked about what needed to be done for 2008 and we are where we are.
We are at a point now, where there are several rule changes that need to be addressed and I would submit to you that if you are not interested in helping the sport progress....and it is progressing.....please step aside and let somebody else drive the bus.
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John white
Pro Racers
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| 06/18/2008 8:30 AM |
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Gary your right I failed at that presidency also thank God the sport does not have to deal with that anymore! 25 years I never learned anything I still care about this sport to much.
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Juan Blanco
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Cheyenne 372
Pro Racers
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| 06/18/2008 10:04 AM |
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Posted By John white on 06/18/2008 8:30 AM
"...thank God the sport does not have to deal with that anymore! ..."
"...25 years I never learned anything I still care about this sport to much..."
I'll address each of these statements individually.....
First one..... Just remember that YOU said that...I didn't....!!!
and the Second one..... You sure have developed a unique, somewhat twisted way of showing how much you care.....!
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Paul Hosler
Pro Racers
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| 06/19/2008 7:52 AM |
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In the words of Rodney King; "Can't we all just get along?"
Or rather, to quote the wisest person ever to grace this planet
"FOOD FIGHT" |
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Paul Hosler
National Rescue Director
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bp
Pro Racers
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| 06/19/2008 8:11 PM |
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Posted By Paul Hosler on 06/19/2008 7:52 AM
In the words of Rodney King; "Can't we all just get along?"
not a great plan, but...
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John white
Pro Racers
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| 06/25/2008 7:16 AM |
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Oh Gary Gary You are the shell man go back and re-read your posts and conversations over the last year as my lady says "Sell it somewhere else".
Second response you had NO problem with my dedication when it served your purpose.
Hos have a great and safe weekend keep that boat parked and enjoy the races! My turn at the mash-potatoes! |
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Juan Blanco
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Cheyenne 372
Pro Racers
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| 06/26/2008 10:58 AM |
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Posted By John white on 06/25/2008 7:16 AM
Oh Gary Gary You are the shell man go back and re-read your posts and conversations over the last year as my lady says "Sell it somewhere else".
Second response you had NO problem with my dedication when it served your purpose.
Juan:
I heard you got a new "...lady..." and I'll sell the statement just fine.
I have never stated that your leadership was a failure. I have openly stated and stand behind the fact that your actions after leaving office have left much to be desired in regard to the legacy you were on track to leave the SDBA with. That, my friend is undeniable!
As to whether or not I had a problem with your dedication when it served my purpose......as I remember it, you didn't have a problem with my dedication to your leadership at the time either.......even when I wanted to be on the board and YOU kept me off of the board so as to avoid dissenting votes for your agendas.....
I guess that makes me a failure too!
Have a nice weekend.....I'm going racing.....
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John white
Pro Racers
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| 06/27/2008 9:26 AM |
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Gary enjoy the race and be safe.
As for the other answers well I must say that my actions have been because of the concerns over the current leadership and the direction they are headed, been there seen that.
As for you and the board I have to laugh how many times did I ask and how many times did YOU say you did not have time or that the board would not like to hear what you had to say. How many times did you run for the membership appointed position? That is something the board has NO controll over.
I always listen (did not always agree) but I stood behind your dedication and gave you the credit that you would follow thru on your conviction and I still believe that, I think that is called respect!
The nice thing is it really does not matter in the grand plan. It is what it is! |
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Juan Blanco
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