racertaz
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| 03/01/2008 8:24 PM |
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These radios are receivers only on a designated safety channel to be determaned! IHBA is plannig to have a limited number available for rent. How much has not been determained yet. You will still communicate your times to the starter, as always.
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Duane Sims
aka "The Admin"
Pro Racers
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| 03/01/2008 9:13 PM |
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1/4 Miler #454 said...
scottyb said...Jak, I believe the crew radios are optional.
Scotty, I understand that ... am just wondering if the radios we already have can be used by the crew. In the basic model... no the two channel model I am pretty sure the answer is yes. What frequency are you using VFH, UFH, 800?
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Jak Young
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| 03/02/2008 2:41 AM |
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| When I get back to the shop I'll check and get back to you.
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Dave Glass
Intermediate Racer
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| 03/04/2008 12:23 AM |
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Guy's
These radio's are for your benefit, We have had radios in our boat for the last 4 years and they are great. The speaker system that I installed in Rex's helmet he can here me going down the race course when I need to tell him something. We discuss water conditions before a run or if we have a fire on a run I inform him that hes got a fire back behind him so that he knows before he steps out of the capsule. I can let him or he can tell me if theirs a problem on the race track. Like the strating line problem at the world finals, where I yelled at rescue to let them know we had a problem with the lights. just my 2 cents.
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lhkindley
New Member
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| 03/04/2008 2:05 AM |
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Dave,
We have good luck with our own radio system, but I still don't want someone else able to talk to my driver while our run is in progress. If we decide to race ( ?) with IHBA this year, I will do whatever their rules say, but doesn't mean I won't raise hell if our run is interferred with.
My opinion, but I have raced and am a racer, and I think we have a major problem coming.
Larry
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Flat chance
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| 03/04/2008 2:44 AM |
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| Do open boats need these radios also.
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racertaz
Rookie
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| 03/04/2008 6:12 AM |
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To quote the IHBA website:
FEBRUARY 29, 2008
ATTENTION RACERS: To clarify... starting in 2008, open boat and capsule boat drivers will be required to have radio receivers. Go to IHBA website home page for info on the actual receivers.
Note: Keyword is "receiver" meaning to listen--only the starter and rescue will be on this channel - no one else.
Hope this helps clarify things
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RSQBUZZ
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steve brady
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| 03/04/2008 10:14 PM |
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I rarely post: However I strongly agree with Larry. I always abide by the rules, and it is my perogative to stop at any time, or if I get feedback from my driver that the run has been hampered in any way, and my biggest concern is the safety of the run and my driver. I am extremly concerned with the chatter possiblity. We will see how this goes.
STEVE
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richard hobson
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| 03/05/2008 6:22 PM |
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My understanding is that these are just recievers and the only ones that will be able to talk on these frequencies will be rescue and the starter, and if you already have a radio the more expensive unit allows you to tie them both together and only have one headset. I can see where this would take some time to get used to, and bugs to work, but I can also see how this will be a big benifit to all involved.
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Duane Sims
aka "The Admin"
Pro Racers
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| 03/05/2008 6:25 PM |
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| As stated, several times there is a two-channel model that will allow the driver to RECIEVE radio transmission from two (2) different channels.
Enabling the driver to hear from the IHBA Officials and the crew. Yes as Scotty said there could be mistakes while procedure is being defined.
Here is a sample how this would work:
Rescue to Starter on chanell "A" you have green
Starter acknowledges rescue on chanell "A" then turns his radio to channel "B"
On channel "B" starter to Driver "driver we have a green course give me a thumbs up when ready" (something like that)
Drivers give thumbs up
Starter turns back to channel "A" Rescue/Tower we have clocks
After the run rescue would then have the option to turn to channel "B" if they need to check with the driver.
With a procedure similar to this there should be no mistakes and the driver will always have communication with crew and no interference from IHBA officials.
Pretty simple and straight forward process to me, as for the fear of the system causing an issuse with false interfearence to the driver... fair concern since that can happen today without the new device. They make scanner transmitters that your competition can buy now and do that.
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RON PITTS
Pro Racers
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| 03/05/2008 8:03 PM |
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Admin1 said...
As stated, several times there is a two-channel model that will allow the driver to RECIEVE radio transmission from two (2) different channels.
Enabling the driver to hear from the IHBA Officials and the crew. Yes as Scotty said there could be mistakes while procedure is being defined.
Here is a sample how this would work:
Rescue to Starter on chanell "A" you have green
Starter acknowledges rescue on chanell "A" then turns his radio to channel "B"
On channel "B" starter to Driver "driver we have a green course give me a thumbs up when ready" (something like that)
Drivers give thumbs up
Starter turns back to channel "A" Rescue/Tower we have clocks
After the run rescue would then have the option to turn to channel "B" if they need to check with the driver.
With a procedure similar to this there should be no mistakes and the driver will always have communication with crew and no interference from IHBA officials.
Pretty simple and straight forward process to me, as for the fear of the system causing an issuse with false interfearence to the driver... fair concern since that can happen today without the new device. They make scanner transmitters that your competition can buy now and do that.
What channel is the crew on ?
Shouldn't rescue/tower/starter,driver be on the " A " channel and the crew/driver be on " B " channel. |
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Scott Burrows
Pro Racers
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| 03/05/2008 8:55 PM |
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Ron, now that would be excessive chatter. I don't think the drivers want to hear all of our conversations, calling pairings to the tower, etc. The only conversation they need to hear is the starter getting them ready, rescue if there is an emergency, and their crew on another channel. JMO.
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UBIN
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| 03/05/2008 9:46 PM |
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| just a question who gets the priority channel? if the crew is talking does the starter or rescue override them, and what kind of a delay is there in a scan feature. can you miss parts of a message? |
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Duane Sims
aka "The Admin"
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| 03/05/2008 10:01 PM |
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RONPITTS said...
What channel is the crew on ?
Shouldn't rescue/tower/starter,driver be on the " A " channel and the crew/driver be on " B " channel.
In my example
Channel A is the IHBA channel only
Channel B is shared for comunication channel for the IHBA Start and or Rescue to comunicate to the driver, the driver cannot talk back over this channel and will comunicate if needed by the old fashion way by hand signals. The purpose is to elimnate the issuse we had last fall when the driver could not hear the starter to shut down the motor the course is RED. The reciver is a two channel RECEIVER therefore channel "C" is for the team comunications only.
So to recap
IHBA operates on several channels but for this sample Rescue/Starter/Tower has private channel called A and shared channel called B for comunicating with the driver (the crewchief can also have this option to listen in)
The drivers RECIEVER is a 1-way channel B and C is a 2-way channel with crewchief
Crewchief has 2-way channel C and/or optional reciver channel B
Hopes this helps clear the concerns and makes this clearer to everyone.
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Greg Vander Wende
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| 03/05/2008 10:40 PM |
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| Just wondering if the radios are going to be required in personal water craft too? |
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bp
Pro Racers
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| 03/05/2008 11:11 PM |
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Admin1 said...
RONPITTS said...
What channel is the crew on ?
Shouldn't rescue/tower/starter,driver be on the " A " channel and the crew/driver be on " B " channel.
In my example
Channel A is the IHBA channel only
Channel B is shared for comunication channel for the IHBA Start and or Rescue to comunicate to the driver, the driver cannot talk back over this channel and will comunicate if needed by the old fashion way by hand signals. The purpose is to elimnate the issuse we had last fall when the driver could not hear the starter to shut down the motor the course is RED. The reciver is a two channel RECEIVER therefore channel "C" is for the team comunications only.
So to recap
IHBA operates on several channels but for this sample Rescue/Starter/Tower has private channel called A and shared channel called B for comunicating with the driver (the crewchief can also have this option to listen in)
The drivers RECIEVER is a 1-way channel B and C is a 2-way channel with crewchief
Crewchief has 2-way channel C and/or optional reciver channel B
Hopes this helps clear the concerns and makes this clearer to everyone.
yeah, that's a clear as firebird lake water on a late sunday afternoon.
again, which one of the RECEIVERS on the ihba website, or the manufacturers website RECIEVES only 1 channel, and which one can be switched to receive a 2ND CHANNEL?????
i don't need a 2 way, as i spend most of my time talking to the boat anyway.
and... i don't care what anybody says, if the numbers start countin down i'm leavin unless i see red. |
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Duane Sims
aka "The Admin"
Pro Racers
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| 03/05/2008 11:58 PM |
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bp said...
yeah, that's a clear as firebird lake water on a late sunday afternoon.
again, which one of the RECEIVERS on the ihba website, or the manufacturers website RECIEVES only 1 channel, and which one can be switched to receive a 2ND CHANNEL?????
i don't need a 2 way, as i spend most of my time talking to the boat anyway.
and... i don't care what anybody says, if the numbers start countin down i'm leavin unless i see red. Ok let me try it this way...
Plan ahead and call the IHBA to rent your reciever in advance and show up at the opener to get a real experience first hand to how it will work!!! |
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racertaz
Rookie
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| 03/06/2008 12:35 AM |
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Bob,
You need the IHBA Elite 1600 and a set of earbuds.That will make you legal.
John F.
bp said...
Admin1 said...
RONPITTS said...
What channel is the crew on ?
Shouldn't rescue/tower/starter,driver be on the " A " channel and the crew/driver be on " B " channel.
In my example
Channel A is the IHBA channel only
Channel B is shared for comunication channel for the IHBA Start and or Rescue to comunicate to the driver, the driver cannot talk back over this channel and will comunicate if needed by the old fashion way by hand signals. The purpose is to elimnate the issuse we had last fall when the driver could not hear the starter to shut down the motor the course is RED. The reciver is a two channel RECEIVER therefore channel "C" is for the team comunications only.
So to recap
IHBA operates on several channels but for this sample Rescue/Starter/Tower has private channel called A and shared channel called B for comunicating with the driver (the crewchief can also have this option to listen in)
The drivers RECIEVER is a 1-way channel B and C is a 2-way channel with crewchief
Crewchief has 2-way channel C and/or optional reciver channel B
Hopes this helps clear the concerns and makes this clearer to everyone.
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