I have not heard anyone talk about the radio that IHBA is requiring all boats to install.  Anyone hear anything?

Vic word is it will be a receiver only like what the sprint car guys have so the starter or the officials can talk to you. The idea is to not only save the starters vocal cords after a long weekend but also to alert you to a redlit course or system malfunction once you have started your boat. I think it will be a valued tool in alot of ways not only for the things I've mentioned but if say a fire started on your boat when you start it you could be alerted instead of wondering why Rescue is headed at you or smoke fills the capsule. Charlie said the cost would be under $100 or you can rent one at the track. Sparky

Per my post in the meeting thread:

anyone know what the difference is between the "drivers ear bud", and the plain "ear bud", besides $70.00?  seems like you would need some kinda ear buds to hear the $99.00 radio??? 

  For the official word on the radios go to the IHBA website at http://www.ihbaracing.com/pdf/radios.pdf on the home page under the press release column.

What radio frequency, or frequencies will be used?

From what I understand, the basic unit is tunable to any channel, which channel chosen is up to the location of the venue. The FCC regulates frequencies so each location could be different. The IHBA will conduct a radio check at each pre race drivers meeting to make sure everyone is in tune.

There is an option offered by Race Receiver, they do have a duel channel radio which allows the option for you to tune in your radio channel. Keep in mind it has to be in the same radio band… analog will not talk to digital nor will FM to AM… (there is more to frequencies but that not the conversation)

 

This could also be part of the Tech inspection to insure everyone has communication with IHBA officials.

This will allow driver will have both communications with the crew and IHBA.

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is the "ace" in the ihba pdf a 2 channel? or is that the "tru-scan" on racecever's website?

Jak, I believe the crew radios are optional.

Does it have to be that scanner? What if I already have one that we use with our Craftsman truck team?

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10-4. Thanks

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flatties are the s#!t

Duane,

I'm pretty sure ALL boats need the radio.

On another note, I was walking down Market Street in San Francisco this afternoon and saw that I could buy a 40 watt boom box for $39.00.  So I started thinkin, hey I could take it out of the boat between rounds and walk around with it on my shoulder, like in that movie "What's up sucka", and still save about $70.00 to.

Just a thought

vic

 

 

 

 

 

I normally don't post, but this issue has my full attention. What is going to happen while our driver is watching the light, running down the track, if someone is yapping in their ear during this time.
Any time you have several people with a mic, it,s like hollywood time. Have you ever listened to the association radio during races? I'm not against safety, but I can't see any safety in having 3 different people able to interrupt my driver's thoughts at the wrong time.

We have an understanding that if my driver hears anything on his radio, he is to abort the run.
What if the starter is talking to the next set of boats during the run? What if tower wants to tell the starter something or rescue says something?
I don't know who came up with this idea, but there sure should be a lot of thought put into when the radio can be used. If my driver is bothered during a run, you damn well will be hearing from me.
Thanks for letting me vent my frustrations with all the new fangled inventions.

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Larry, they will not be on our primary channel. They will be on a dedicated channel. The only chatter they will hear is what they are meant to hear. Will there be a few hitches along the way? I'm sure.

This will be a work in progress. Nobody is saying it is perfect right out of the box. There may be a few things that need to be tweaked or adjusted as we go along. It is an attempt to improve on something and help everybody have a better racing experience.

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For IHBA Rescue Sponsorship Package

It was stated at the meeting that there would be radios available for rent.

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Thanks.

For river racers, will we tell the ramp boss our times, or still communicate to the starter?

Sorry to be a pain in your side. I was going to say “BUTT”, but I wanted to keep it clean.

Larry

These radios are receivers only on a designated safety channel to be determaned! IHBA is plannig to have a limited number available for rent. How much has not been determained yet. You will still communicate your times to the starter, as always.

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In the basic model... no the two channel model I am pretty sure the answer is yes. What frequency are you using VFH, UFH, 800?

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When I get back to the shop I'll check and get back to you.

Guy's

These radio's are for your benefit, We have had radios in our boat for the last 4 years and they are great. The speaker system that I installed in Rex's helmet he can here me going down the race course when I need to tell him something. We discuss water conditions before a run or if we have a fire on a run I inform him that hes got a fire back behind him so that he  knows before he steps out of the capsule. I can let him or he can tell me if theirs a problem on the race track. Like the strating line problem at the world finals, where I yelled at rescue to let them know we had a problem with the lights. just my 2 cents.

Dave,
We have good luck with our own radio system, but I still don't want someone else able to talk to my driver while our run is in progress. If we decide to race ( ?) with IHBA this year, I will do whatever their rules say, but doesn't mean I won't raise hell if our run is interferred with.

My opinion, but I have raced and am a racer, and I think we have a major problem coming.

Larry

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Do open boats need these radios also.

To quote the IHBA website:

So how will this work with teams who already use radios. The driver has one set of earbuds that connects to both? So both the team and the starter can "step on each other" and the driver hears nothing? One in one ear is the starter radio and the other ear his/her crew? I keep hearing voices in my head. Just food for thought.

I rarely post: However I strongly agree with Larry.  I always abide by the rules, and it is my perogative to stop at any time, or if I get feedback from my driver that the run has been hampered in any way, and my biggest concern is the safety of the run and my driver.  I am extremly concerned with the chatter possiblity.  We will see how this goes.

        STEVE

My understanding is that these are just recievers and the only ones that will be able to talk on these frequencies will be rescue and the starter, and if you already have a radio the more expensive unit allows you to tie them both together and only have one headset.  I can see where this would take some time to get used to, and bugs to work, but I can also see how this will be a big benifit to all involved. 

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For IHBA Rescue Sponsorship Package

As stated, several times there is a two-channel model that will allow the driver to RECIEVE radio transmission from two (2) different channels.

Ron, now that would be excessive chatter. I don't think the drivers want to hear all of our conversations, calling pairings to the tower, etc. The only conversation they need to hear is the starter getting them ready, rescue if there is an emergency, and their crew on another channel. JMO.

 

just a question who gets the priority channel? if the crew is talking does the starter or rescue override them, and what kind of a delay is there in a scan feature. can you miss parts of a message?

Just wondering if the radios are going to be required in personal water craft too?

Ok let me try it this way...

Bob,

You need the IHBA Elite 1600 and a set of earbuds.That will make you legal.

John F.

Scottyb/Admin1... Sounds good to me.

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RSQBUZZ

ReqBuzzz does rescue carry a bull horn on the boat too???

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RSQBUZZ

I'm not a wealthy person but even I could painlessly afford $100 for a radio. Hell, Hos and son will both eat twice that much in sushi the first night we get to Phoenix, and that doesn't count the bar tab. I really don't see the big deal, other than the fact that people don't like being told "they have to do something". If they really don't want to buy one and they only want to go to a couple IHBA races, then they should reserve one to rent at those races.

i'm not a wealthy person either, and i have no problem at all with this, and think it's a great idea.  and i don't care if someone is talking when i'm on the clock.  if i did have a question or issue with it, i'd have brought it up at the meeting when it was discussed at length (unlike another new rule that was never discussed at all).

all i've been asking, for 3 posts now, is which receiver is the 2 channel.  unless the 2 channel, that was also discussed at the meeting as an option. 

BP, my tongue in cheek post was directed toward those that are still arguing the merits of the radios receivers, not those that are wanting more information.

Thanks Scotty for the additional information.

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Here is an idea not saying the receivers are a bad idea. How about a light for each lane when the light is lite give a thumbs up when you are ready.

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Juan Blanco

thanks scotty.

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Abracadabra Racing

John if you recall the 2007 World Finals there was a deal were fuel was on the line and lit and they had to Red Light the course, I don't recall who but one fueler did not shut down when the red light came on and rescue had to pull in front of him to get his attention. So additional lights are not the answer.

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