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Laurie Carver Send Private Message Posts:1257 Laurie Carver
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11 Dec 2009 08:21 AM

2010 LUCAS OIL DRAG BOAT RACING SERIES

March 19, 20 & 21 Firebird Spring Nationals, Chandler AZ

April 30 May 1 & 2 Firebird Spring Nationals, Chandler, AZ

June 11, 12 & 13 Little Caesars Ozark Nationals, Oklahoma City OK

June 26 & 27 Showdown in San Angelo, San Angelo TX

July 16, 17 & 18 25th Annual Augusta Southern Nationals, Augusta GA

July 23, 24 & 25 Thunder at Oak Hallow, High Point NC

Aug 7 & 8 Mid America Southern Nationals, Chouteau OK

Aug 13, 14 &15 Marble Falls Lakefest 2010, Marble Falls TX
 
Aug 28 & 29 Cowtown Nationals, Fort Worth TX

Sept 4 & 5 The Diamond Drag Boat Nationals Lucas Oil Speed Way, Wheatland MO

Sept 17, 18 & 19 44th Mission Bay Bayfair, San Diego CA

Nov 4, 5, 6 & 7 NAPA Lucas Oil World Finals Firebird Raceway, Chandler AZ


There are 16 divisional races, the schedule will be posted today.

 
Jelly Lilinoe Send Private Message Posts:263 Jelly Lilinoe
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11 Dec 2009 09:03 AM
so sdba is combined into this right? so they're not having their separate races?
Jelly
Tim Kelley Gold Memeber Gold Memeber Send Private Message Posts:57 Tim Kelley
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11 Dec 2009 09:12 AM

THis was posted on another forum site:

2010 SDBA Tentative Schedule:

Check back soon for details and updates!

June 11th, 12th and 13th - Oklahoma City, OK
A Test and Tune event will be held Friday June 11th.
June 26th and 27th - San Angelo, TX
August 7th and 8th - Chouteau, OK
August 14th and 15th - Marble Falls, TX

Lucas Oil Co-Points Race
August. 28th and 29th - Ft. Worth, TX



Devin

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Duane Sims aka "The Admin" Send Private Message Posts:926 Duane Sims
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11 Dec 2009 04:17 PM
Devin in life anything can change, however I have a really nice printed Lucas Oil Drag Boat Racing Series 2010 Racing Schedule in my hand from today press conference with a really kick but head on photo of Spirit of Texas on the bottom of it. As for another website post... I did not see another website represented at the Press Conference this morning.

Jelly the Associations (CDBA, KDBA, NJBA, SDBA and SLDBA) will hold their divisional races list on the printed card as:

March 20 & 21 Bakersfield CA
April 17 & 18 Bakersfield, CA
May 15 & 16 Popular Bluff, MO
22 & 23 Bakersfield, CA
June 5 & 6 Kentucky Lake, KY
12 & 13 Lowell OR
19 & 20 St Louis, MO
July 10 & 11 Kentucky Lake, KY
31 & 1 Kentucky Lake, KY
Augusta 14 & 15 Lakeside OR
21 & 22 Litchfield, IL
28 & 29 Livermore KY
September 11 & 12 New Athens , IL and Culver, OR and Bakersfield, CA
25 & 26 Lowell, OR
October 16 & 17 Bakersfield, CA
November 20 & 21 Bakersfield, CA

For those concerned about the former IHBA division race you can just think associations’ as divisions. They will announce more soon, however I can say there were discussions to answer everyone’s concerns today and it sounds like a great plan.

What is not printed but common sense tells me venues are sanctioned by:

NJBA
NJBA
SLDBA
NJBA
KDBA
CDBA
SLDBA
KDBA
KDBA
CDBA
SLDBA
KDBA
SLDBA
CDBA
NJBA
NJBA
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Tim Kelley Gold Memeber Gold Memeber Send Private Message Posts:57 Tim Kelley
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11 Dec 2009 04:36 PM
sorry, I was just trying to answer Jelly's question

Devin
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Duane Sims aka "The Admin" Send Private Message Posts:926 Duane Sims
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11 Dec 2009 05:48 PM
One other note is yes Pro Mod is included in the Pro Series.
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dave lipinski Gold Memeber Gold Memeber Send Private Message Posts:92 dave lipinski
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11 Dec 2009 08:00 PM
IS THERE GOING TO BE ONE LUCAS RULE BOOK FOR ALL ORGANIZATION ? FORINSTANCE NJBA HAS A MUCH DIFFERENT RULE BOOK THAN SDBA . AND WHAT CLASSES WILL LUCAS HAVE FOR THE DIVISIONAL RACES?
Sparky Rose Send Private Message Posts:128 Sparky Rose
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12 Dec 2009 05:33 AM
Dave the rule book was worked on in KC at the meeting. There will be a rule book for the Lucas series but I see addendums for different Assoc. Sparky
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Vince Nelson Send Private Message Posts:1019 Vince Nelson
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12 Dec 2009 11:04 AM
Very interesting. Dave the problem with NJBA is everything has to be approved by the board and voted on by the member as you know, so this will get very interesting regarding the rule book and NJBA!!!!

Duane, by the looks of it, the National Series is going to be running by itself?? For example the first divisional race is the same weekend as the National series opener in Phoenix.. I have a hard time believing that's going to work...
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RON PITTS Send Private Message Posts:416 RON PITTS
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12 Dec 2009 12:13 PM
Posted By Vince Nelson on 12 Dec 2009 11:04 AM
Very interesting. Dave the problem with NJBA is everything has to be approved by the board and voted on by the member as you know, so this will get very interesting regarding the rule book and NJBA!!!!

Duane, by the looks of it, the National Series is going to be running by itself?? For example the first divisional race is the same weekend as the National series opener in Phoenix.. I have a hard time believing that's going to work...


Vince...As far as I know NJBA did not have a rules change meeting this year.There were no rule changes to vote on this year on the ballot mailed out in Nov.The first year I have seen that.
dave lipinski Gold Memeber Gold Memeber Send Private Message Posts:92 dave lipinski
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12 Dec 2009 01:38 PM
So basically California racers are $hit out of luck . Looks like SDBA has convinced LUCAS OIL to leave the west coast racers out of the loop seeing how all the LUCAS races are in the mid U.S. area. NJBA does,nt promote spectator particapation by not advertizing their Club program to the public for purse revenue. Also Chowchilla is out because of politices. Red Bluff because of tree huggers. Sounds like California needs a new race organization or Njba should try to get a promoter to help create a purse for the sportsman races in California.
HAPPY NEW YEAR
Bob Prigmore Send Private Message Posts:406 Bob Prigmore
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12 Dec 2009 01:39 PM
Posted By RON PITTS on 12 Dec 2009 12:13 PM
Vince...As far as I know NJBA did not have a rules change meeting this year.There were no rule changes to vote on this year on the ballot mailed out in Nov.The first year I have seen that.

ron, they had a rules change meeting and as i understand it there were a few things proposed, but they didn't make the ballot. 
Bob Prigmore Send Private Message Posts:406 Bob Prigmore
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12 Dec 2009 01:46 PM
Posted By dave lipinski on 11 Dec 2009 08:00 PM
IS THERE GOING TO BE ONE LUCAS RULE BOOK FOR ALL ORGANIZATION ? FORINSTANCE NJBA HAS A MUCH DIFFERENT RULE BOOK THAN SDBA . AND WHAT CLASSES WILL LUCAS HAVE FOR THE DIVISIONAL RACES?

dave, the divisions are the clubs.  the njba division, the cdba division, sdba division, so on.  there is no more cross-polination or divisional type stuff we seen in the past, where you'd go to different venues in pursuit of a championship. 

duane, i see you're listing njba as the "division" for firebird?  will that be an "njba division points race"? or, just tow over there if they feel like it?  this'll be interesting to watch...
Howard Jaquith Send Private Message Posts:147 Howard Jaquith
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12 Dec 2009 02:10 PM
There are a number of excellent sites in Oregon, Calif, and Nevada, we have taken time to go there measure them get weather on them (most have a station very close). Some of these sites are better than others some are are very difficult due to bottom conditions and depth, some rather deep courses(30 feet) are very safe due water clearity. The only thing lacking is a promoter, maybe some of the Calif., Ore., Wash., Nev racers that want to race for a purse need to contact Lucas I think IQ is too busy with its other racing to offer more than help and course equipment, but we will help. The market and boats are here to have 3-4 West Coast Nat's . Well I'm off to the shop HJ
RON PITTS Send Private Message Posts:416 RON PITTS
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12 Dec 2009 02:52 PM
Posted By Bob Prigmore on 12 Dec 2009 01:46 PM
Posted By dave lipinski on 11 Dec 2009 08:00 PM
IS THERE GOING TO BE ONE LUCAS RULE BOOK FOR ALL ORGANIZATION ? FORINSTANCE NJBA HAS A MUCH DIFFERENT RULE BOOK THAN SDBA . AND WHAT CLASSES WILL LUCAS HAVE FOR THE DIVISIONAL RACES?

dave, the divisions are the clubs.  the njba division, the cdba division, sdba division, so on.  there is no more cross-polination or divisional type stuff we seen in the past, where you'd go to different venues in pursuit of a championship. 

duane, i see you're listing njba as the "division" for firebird?  will that be an "njba division points race"? or, just tow over there if they feel like it?  this'll be interesting to watch...

So the divisions have a different rule book than LUCAS except for the SDBA.All clubs were to be on one rule book.
Duane Sims aka "The Admin" Send Private Message Posts:926 Duane Sims
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12 Dec 2009 06:35 PM

Hey folks back up a little and sit tight, there are still thing being ironed out. There are thing I will not share until I have an official word but I can say the conflict dates with National and divisional will probably resolved this week.

As for the rulebook, that will be also finalized and printed ASAP. Keep in mind there are many comon items in rulesbooks like safety.

As Sparky said I too believe it will have addendums that will apply to association divisional races. However when a division hosts National venues the LODBS Rules will apply for that venue.

On another note for those who attended the drivers meeting on Saturday night at the world finals heard Charlie say that everything is good and you the racers have an opportunity here with Lucas Oil so put aside the animosity between associations and racers work together. I commend him for his speech and we should adhere to what he said.

Be patient and if you have something to share or would like something done post it but don’t be negative.

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Mike Barnes Send Private Message Posts:209 Mike Barnes
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14 Dec 2009 06:11 AM
Just to echo what Duane said, a little birdie told me that the announcements from Lucas concerning National vs. Divisional races and how they all tie in together (especially concerning us "West Coast racers") will be forthcoming. I was told by a reliable source to sit tight and we should be receiving some more information as early as the middle of this week. The quote was, "everyone is going to be really happy with what is announced." Apparently there are some more meetings going on early this week to iron out details concerning us (former) Division 1 racers. I think all the b!t¢hing and moaning is premature at this point and does nothing to promote ourselves and our sport in a positive light. I know that I am just as eager as anyone else to find out what is in store for us "California Boys" for 2010, but can easily wait a few more days before I start passing judgment on things I don't really have enough information to really be knowledgeable about...
Mike Barnes
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(RETIRED ??)
 

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Vince Nelson Send Private Message Posts:1019 Vince Nelson
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14 Dec 2009 08:06 AM
Mike and Duane thanks for the information...  I've been praying all week for more races at Phoenix!!! Glad to see there's still hope...  Any word on purses for the pro guys?
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Mike Barnes Send Private Message Posts:209 Mike Barnes
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16 Dec 2009 10:49 PM
This evening, I received word on very reliable and high authority the basic structure of the 2010 Lucas Oil Dragboat Racing Series (LODBRS) Season "Championship" as it relates to the Sportsman/Bracket Racer. Since my source is staying at the Watergate Hotel and asked to meet me in the parking garage... please note, this information is UNOFFICIAL and SUBJECT TO CHANGE pending approval.

The important things to remember from all this are: 

 * Those wishing to compete at the "Club Level" can continue to compete as much or as little as they want with their favorite club. 

 * Those wishing to compete at the "National Level" can continue to compete as much or as little as they want at any LODBRS "National Event".
 
* Those wishing to compete at BOTH the "Club Level" and "National Level" can continue to compete as much or as little as they want at any LODBRS "National Event" as well as any combination of "Club Level" events they choose.

 * There will be NO individual “Divisional Series Championship" through LODBRS as there was with IHBA
.  However, there is a proposal that would give racers the opportunity to qualify for a likely season ending "event of champions" race (exact name to be determined) for the chance to win something cool like a LODBRS champion's leather jacket. (Many of the details are still to be worked out, but the structure of said event is fairly concrete.) 

 * The recently published dates for the LODBRS "National Events" are at this point to be considered tentative. (However, most of them are considered concrete)
 
* The recently published dates for the LODBRS "Club Events" can also be considered tentative. (However, many of them can be considered concrete as well)

 * The important thing to note is, LODBRS "National Events" will not be scheduled the same weekend as the "Club Events" if at all possible
 
* LODBRS "National Events" will utilize either the SDBA's or their own brand new timing systems

I guess the message to be relayed is, LODBRS has NOT forgotten the "Sportsman/Bracket Racer" as many have feared and some have stated. 
 
* If the CALIFORNIA racer still desires to travel to Oregon, Arizona or Texas (and beyond) to race with a professional organization against high caliber competition, then he will be able to do just that in 2010 with the LODBRS "National Events" and it's member organizations "Club Events".  
 
* If the TEXAS racer still desires to travel to Oklahoma, Missouri or Georgia (and beyond) to race with a professional organization against high caliber competition, then he will be able to do just that in 2010 with the LODBRS "National Events" and it's member organizations "Club Events" as well.

Stay tuned for more information as it is revealed!!

Sincerely,

"DEEP THROAT"
(just don't call me Linda Lovelace)
Mike Barnes
"Physi-COLE Attraction"
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"Animal Instinct"
PE# 207
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john pahule Fan Fan Send Private Message Posts:4 john pahule
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17 Dec 2009 07:16 AM
Has anyone herd anything about Div. 1 ???????
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17 Dec 2009 08:23 AM
The reason that I am asking I am building a mod elimitator and would like to race it
Mike Barnes Send Private Message Posts:209 Mike Barnes
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17 Dec 2009 09:29 AM
John,

"Division 1" as it was once known no longer exists.
Your choices here on the west coast (former "Division 1" territory) are either NJBA (Bakersfield) or CDBA (Oregon) based races.  There will also be the opportunity to race at the "National Events" held either in Chandler (Firebird Raceway) or San Diego (Mission Bay). 
The question to you is, Where do you live and how far do you wish to travel to race?? (the same questions that existed when IHBA was running the series)
Mike Barnes
"Physi-COLE Attraction"
PE# 316
(RETIRED ??)
 

"Animal Instinct"
PE# 207
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john pahule Fan Fan Send Private Message Posts:4 john pahule
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17 Dec 2009 09:45 AM
Thanks Mike, I Appriciate all of your information and I'll be looking forward to talking to you in the near future . Take care
dave lipinski Gold Memeber Gold Memeber Send Private Message Posts:92 dave lipinski
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17 Dec 2009 11:33 AM
Thanks Mike I heard this last week. But I would like someone like NJBA to let the racers know if they will have the same rule book and classes as the rest of the UNITED STATES ? 
I think all of the west coast racers would like to know ASAP to prepare for the 2010 season.
THANKS AGAIN
HOT SHOT RACING
RON PITTS Send Private Message Posts:416 RON PITTS
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17 Dec 2009 11:44 AM
Posted By dave lipinski on 17 Dec 2009 11:33 AM
Thanks Mike I heard this last week. But I would like someone like NJBA to let the racers know if they will have the same rule book and classes as the rest of the UNITED STATES ? 
I think all of the west coast racers would like to know ASAP to prepare for the 2010 season.
THANKS AGAIN
HOT SHOT RACING

NJBA has there own rulebook with no changes voted in by the members this year.PCE is not included.
Sparky Rose Send Private Message Posts:128 Sparky Rose
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17 Dec 2009 02:45 PM
Ron if they join LODBRS they will be using the Lucas rule book like us. Sparky
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Vince Nelson Send Private Message Posts:1019 Vince Nelson
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17 Dec 2009 02:53 PM

So us Arizona boys are in trouble..

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Vince Nelson Send Private Message Posts:1019 Vince Nelson
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17 Dec 2009 02:59 PM
Posted By Sparky Rose on 17 Dec 2009 02:45 PM
Ron if they join LODBRS they will be using the Lucas rule book like us. Sparky


Sparky, can they do that without issueing a vote to the members? 

Mike, so who will be the sanctioning body at the National events like the season opener at Phoenix??  Are they just going to have a sportsman race with no sanctioning body like NJBA and so on??  This is definitely interesting!!!!!!!!
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Vince Nelson Send Private Message Posts:1019 Vince Nelson
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17 Dec 2009 03:01 PM
I honestly don't know what to think.... Ron, looks like no more PCE unless you want to go race SDBA or CDBA which I guess eliminates all the drama but were back to two and three boat fields..  I need to win the powerball!!!!
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Sparky Rose Send Private Message Posts:128 Sparky Rose
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17 Dec 2009 03:04 PM
Vince, Ken S. was at the meeting in KC and he and I both agreed there would be things that our respective Assocs. needed to add as addendums as they didn't match what was in the National book. I haven't talked with Ken since the meeting but I know there our some issues with us that we want added as addendums because the majority of the other sanctioning bodies didn't agree with them (such as capsule driver cert. length). As you have noticed we on the West coast have been cut way down with Div. 1 going away and I would hope that NJBA and CDBA can get some races cosanctioned to shore up the West coast schedule. Sparky
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Vince Nelson Send Private Message Posts:1019 Vince Nelson
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17 Dec 2009 03:15 PM
Thanks Sparky!!!  (Probably dumb question here) Would the addendums only be at the co-sanctioned events? It seems like there would be a bunch for CDBA to cosanction with NJBA, things like capsule requirements which I think would be a big one.  I know time will tell, just a lot of questions due to NJBA's rule book being so different from yours and the others..  Either way, can't wait!!!!  If money is there, we will be there!!!!!!!!
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Hellbound Train Racing
Sparky Rose Send Private Message Posts:128 Sparky Rose
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17 Dec 2009 03:34 PM
Vince mainly our addendums are saftey issues and the 7.70 rule is being looked at as far as the mph limits NJBA has. The main objective on the Lucas book was to try and make things the same all over but there are some I don't agree with and some that would be a step back for us. We require capsule drivers to take the plunge every 2 years which everybody else had it to where you do it 1 time and that's it. We will stay at 2 years rather than the National that went with 4. It has always kept drivers in tune with what to do in a crash, lets us know if their equipment is working like it should and we train our divers on extraction every year at the cert traing which keeps them in tune with rescues. I know with NJBA's class list and other issues something will have to be to bring it all together from both directions. As far as rules for cosanctioned races I would venture to guess if the addendums are added we will honor them the classes would be another issue. Sparky
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Vince Nelson Send Private Message Posts:1019 Vince Nelson
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17 Dec 2009 03:42 PM
I'm with you.  I did my capsule cert 4 years ago and I don't remember chit!!!!  As far as the 7.70 rule goes, what's your thoughts on it and NJBA's MPH rule?  The class issue will be very interesting and fun to watch what transpires.
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Hellbound Train Racing
Sparky Rose Send Private Message Posts:128 Sparky Rose
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17 Dec 2009 03:49 PM
I'm still kind of up in the air because the 7.70 rule applies to all hulls and drives were as the NJBA mph is hull and drive specific. Not sure which is best so I need to do some more brain storming. I can say that all of the Assoc. at the meeting other than Ken and I thought it might be a good idea on the mph deal. Sparky
CDBA 1
Mike Barnes Send Private Message Posts:209 Mike Barnes
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17 Dec 2009 05:18 PM
Posted By Vince Nelson on 17 Dec 2009 02:59 PM
Mike, so who will be the sanctioning body at the National events like the season opener at Phoenix?? 


Vince,

I do not have a firm answer for you as to who will be the sanctioning body at Phoenix for the opener.

As I understand it, the plan so far for the NATIONAL EVENTS is to have one of two scenarios for course set-up and timing systems:

1.  SDBA - course set-up and SDBA timing equipment
2.  LODBRS - course set-up and LODBRS timing equipment 

So if you put 2 + 2 together, one might imagine whoever's clocks and equipment are on the premesis just might also be the sanctioning body...

At this point, I will refer to the LODBRS website:
  For more information on the Lucas Oil Drag Boat Racing Series please call Ken Dollar at (830) 265-4790 or (951) 870-6381

"DEEP THROAT" out!!
Mike Barnes
"Physi-COLE Attraction"
PE# 316
(RETIRED ??)
 

"Animal Instinct"
PE# 207
2002, 2005, 2008 IHBA (Div 1) WORLD CHAMPION
 
 
RON PITTS Send Private Message Posts:416 RON PITTS
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17 Dec 2009 08:07 PM
Posted By Sparky Rose on 17 Dec 2009 03:49 PM
I'm still kind of up in the air because the 7.70 rule applies to all hulls and drives were as the NJBA mph is hull and drive specific. Not sure which is best so I need to do some more brain storming. I can say that all of the Assoc. at the meeting other than Ken and I thought it might be a good idea on the mph deal. Sparky

It will be interesting to see who wins this discussion.Jets and flats running in the 7.20's at Bakersfield is pretty cool and fun to watch but is it really that safe.
Bob Murdoch Old Timer Old Timer Send Private Message Posts:54 Bob Murdoch
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18 Dec 2009 10:01 AM
Please dont count Chowchilla out yet.....there are some things in the works...if not this year then next year for sure.....
ralph richardson Old Timer Old Timer Send Private Message Posts:52 ralph richardson
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18 Dec 2009 03:05 PM
Where did the 7.70 come from? How was that number made into the magical number? Just wondering.
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18 Dec 2009 04:28 PM
Posted By ralph richardson on 18 Dec 2009 03:05 PM
Where did the 7.70 come from? How was that number made into the magical number? Just wondering.


That a good question.
Tony Scarlata Gold Memeber Gold Memeber Send Private Message Posts:47 Tony Scarlata
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18 Dec 2009 06:11 PM
Posted By ralph richardson on 18 Dec 2009 03:05 PM
Where did the 7.70 come from? How was that number made into the magical number? Just wondering.








Ralph,

In 1997 there was a decent amout of Pro gas flats that were running. They wanted to try to even out the field and make the class safer so they implemented a weight minimum rule. The minimum weight was 1875lbs with the driver dressed. They had a crane at each race with a scale attached and all the boats were weighed after each pass. It was a royal pain in the ass and it was not convenient. So they did away with that. Then at the end of 2000 Fegan called me and asked me what I felt was a good, safe number for open flats to be running. I told him 7.40s to 7.50s. At the same time SDBA had just started a 7.70 rule so they all went with that number. Jeff Martin and Us were running 7.40s and everyone else was running in the 7.70 range so it evened up the field. That number is a little light in my opinion. I feel the rule should be 7.20


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20 Dec 2009 08:14 AM
Thanks for letting us know where the 7.70 rule came from Tony I always wondered where the math came from. 7.20....spoken like a true flatbottom driver....LOL. I'm not real sure where the line should be drawn, while the mph rule looks good the 7.70 has its points to. The fact that if you (Tony) were to make a pass in an open flat at 7.20 other than those that don't know your driving abilities most of us wouldn't have a problem with it other than the rule in the books. If Joe Blow with a minimum of seat time were to go out and do the same thing we would all wait for the bad ending that would most likely happen. We all know that the safe speed or ET for some does not encompass all that try and once again a rule was impemented to protect the masses. Sparky
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ralph richardson Old Timer Old Timer Send Private Message Posts:52 ralph richardson
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21 Dec 2009 02:18 PM
Posted By Tony Scarlata on 18 Dec 2009 06:11 PM
Posted By ralph richardson on 18 Dec 2009 03:05 PM
Where did the 7.70 come from? How was that number made into the magical number? Just wondering.








Ralph,

In 1997 there was a decent amout of Pro gas flats that were running. They wanted to try to even out the field and make the class safer so they implemented a weight minimum rule. The minimum weight was 1875lbs with the driver dressed. They had a crane at each race with a scale attached and all the boats were weighed after each pass. It was a royal pain in the ass and it was not convenient. So they did away with that. Then at the end of 2000 Fegan called me and asked me what I felt was a good, safe number for open flats to be running. I told him 7.40s to 7.50s. At the same time SDBA had just started a 7.70 rule so they all went with that number. Jeff Martin and Us were running 7.40s and everyone else was running in the 7.70 range so it evened up the field. That number is a little light in my opinion. I feel the rule should be 7.20


So this is another one of the famous meetings between Tony and CF that will go down in history.



RON PITTS Send Private Message Posts:416 RON PITTS
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06 Jan 2010 11:27 PM
Any word on the 7.70 rule vs the MPH rule ?
Vince Nelson Send Private Message Posts:1019 Vince Nelson
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07 Jan 2010 06:59 AM
Ron, I'm hearing that NJBA had a board meeting yesterday I believe.  Be interesting of came out of it!!!
2005 IHBA Top Eliminator DIV 1 World Champ
Hellbound Train Racing
RON PITTS Send Private Message Posts:416 RON PITTS
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10 Jan 2010 01:00 PM
Posted By Vince Nelson on 07 Jan 2010 06:59 AM
Ron, I'm hearing that NJBA had a board meeting yesterday I believe.  Be interesting of came out of it!!!

Since we are not on the board.When is thier general membership meeting?in the old days it was once a month.
Vince Nelson Send Private Message Posts:1019 Vince Nelson
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12 Jan 2010 01:51 PM
Good question Ron. Kind of surprised that we are now 2 weeks into January and haven't heard anything recently.. Strange that no information is being released from these meetings...
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Hellbound Train Racing
dave lipinski Gold Memeber Gold Memeber Send Private Message Posts:92 dave lipinski
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12 Jan 2010 03:38 PM
Like they say deep pocket$$$$$$ shallow minds??????
Mike Barnes Send Private Message Posts:209 Mike Barnes
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14 Jan 2010 12:24 PM
Lucas Oil Dragboats TECHNICAL DIRECTOR Contact Information

I was asked by LODBRS "National Technical Director" Henry Sarandria to pass on the following information:

(From Henry) "I can be reached at tech@lucasoildragboats.com please post and spread the word. I will begin posting safety and tech info shortly...Thanks, Henry"








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"Physi-COLE Attraction"
PE# 316
(RETIRED ??)
 

"Animal Instinct"
PE# 207
2002, 2005, 2008 IHBA (Div 1) WORLD CHAMPION
 
 
Richard Tiberi Crew Crew Send Private Message Posts:5 Richard Tiberi
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16 Jan 2010 04:25 PM
See you guys at Phoenix November 4,5,6,7 heading over from Australia any tips?
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16 Jan 2010 05:26 PM
Hey Richard, we look forward to seeing you in March at the Australian Nationals!!!
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