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Paul Hosler
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| 25 Aug 2009 07:48 AM |
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Probably the wrong place for this, but the annual fishing trip is on again for Thursday the 17th. Interested persons should call H&M Landing at 619-222-1144-we will be on the Malihini trip; and are fishing in Mexican waters for Yellowtail and anything else that bites. Boat leaves at 6AM and returns at 5PM. Cost is $95, or $85 for juniors and seniors. They have a full kitchen, a grill and a bar onboard, and serve breakfast and lunch. The dock is about 3 miles from the track and is very easy to get to/from. Hope some of you can join us. |
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John Flores
Old Timer
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| 25 Aug 2009 03:30 PM |
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There are still a few spots open, if you want to race San Diego, contact the IHBA office at 505-869-0005 or drop an email at ihba@aol.com.
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Bob Prigmore
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| 26 Aug 2009 11:38 AM |
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john, how many spots in which classes??? |
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Duane Sims
aka "The Admin"
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| 26 Aug 2009 06:55 PM |
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Well I must say I am disappointed nobody has posted the point list since the top 8 of each class are the first to be invited to this race. I regret the day job that pays for our work here on DragBoatRacing.com has been occupying too much of my time lately so I have not compiled a list yet for the roll call.
John since you are well connected how about posting the list to who has confirmed.
Rumors have been fly hear in San Diego area that the race has been canceled since the Unlimited Hydro are not going to be here this year in addition to this may be the last year for the venue due to finances.
I have reinsured those I work with and who have contacted me about the venue that this is not a fact and the race will be in September as hasbeen.
With that said I can understand if they are not getting financial support from sponsor that if this race does not cover bank it could be the last year for the race until they can recover financially… typical to what our economy is.
With that said I find it really hard to accept the fact that I am having a hard time getting information to help promote drag boat racing from parties involve.
Now that I said that I need to say “Thank Christian Fletcher” for working with me to promote your venue! I truly regret not being there and look forward to working with more next year.
Now back to roll call…
You know should get a drift why everyone who can attend should.
Here is a short list for starters:
Here is a short list for starters:
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TFH |
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Speed Sports Special |
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Spirit of Texas |
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Hot Licks Bullet |
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Problem Child |
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Liquid Quik |
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Dragonator |
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Toxic Rocket |
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TAH |
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Black Draggin |
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Meanstreak |
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déjà vu |
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Mischief Maker |
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Blown to the Bone |
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What a Tomato |
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Bad Moon Rising |
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Bad Habit |
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TAF |
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Habit Forming III |
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All Lit Up |
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Red Alert |
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War Party |
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Justice |
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Mako Force |
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Nightmare |
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Aw Sum Toy |
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PM |
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Freak Show |
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Top Secret |
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Alter Ego |
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See Ya |
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Livin Tha Dream |
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Excessive Force |
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Screamin Seaman |
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Bottoms Up |
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Liquid Assets |
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PE |
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Centsless |
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Smokin Aces |
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Animal Instinct |
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I'm Back Hot n Bothered |
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Joint Venture |
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Outa Control |
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Hot Damn Hondo |
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Without a Trace |
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Bob Prigmore
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| 26 Aug 2009 07:16 PM |
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MODIFIED ELIMINATOR
me...
them...
i think 561 is coming, and maybe 26... dunno who else... |
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Duane Sims
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| 26 Aug 2009 07:59 PM |
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Hey Bob, I am working on ME now thanks for adding to it. |
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Eddie Knox
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| 27 Aug 2009 06:51 AM |
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P.C. is gonna try for sure. Closest race to home!! |
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james blevins
Pro Racer
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| 27 Aug 2009 03:20 PM |
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Duane Sims
aka "The Admin"
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| 27 Aug 2009 05:30 PM |
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No this is just a list I through together of those are in the top 8 in points. I will try an work on the list and start confirming them this weekend.
Posted By james blevins on 27 Aug 2009 04:20 PM
am i reading this right is that a comfirmed list???
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Steve Montgomery
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| 05 Sep 2009 05:08 PM |
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I get to escape from work for a few days and take pictures at San Diego, wahoo! 3 weekends of racing in a row for me, CDBA Haystack, San Diego and back to Oregon for the CDBA finale. The boss is not happy but I am. |
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joe caldwell
Rookie
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| 10 Sep 2009 04:26 PM |
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Hi guys....
Any chance of a couple 350 HP skis could run the drags? We have raced with the scsc,Ijsba, closed course and endurance. Would love to have a chance to break into the drags. The skis are completely modified from the pumps to the super chargers. They are capable of speeds in excess of 90 mph in the 1/8th mile.
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Mark Westfall
Pro Racer
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| 10 Sep 2009 04:39 PM |
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Has anyone heard what is up with Greg Tedesco?? |
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joe caldwell
Rookie
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| 10 Sep 2009 04:52 PM |
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 Here is one of the skis.
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Mark Westfall
Pro Racer
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| 10 Sep 2009 05:46 PM |
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Joe, call the IHBA office. You can get the phone # and San Diego Bayfair info on the IHBA website. |
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joe caldwell
Rookie
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| 10 Sep 2009 06:12 PM |
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Mark, I emailed the ihba..they said they were running a pwc class this year....so hopefully ill get to meet you guys.  |
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Tod Thompson
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| 13 Sep 2009 12:29 PM |
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Anyone coming to play ? |
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Bryton Bobbitt
Old Timer
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| 13 Sep 2009 09:03 PM |
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Whats this that Whisky River might be there? Does anyone have a clue whos there for sure? Let us know please ASAP |
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joe caldwell
Rookie
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| 14 Sep 2009 03:59 PM |
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well, faxed over my membership and event entry..followed up with 2 emails and a phone call. I hope they call me back. |
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Eddie Knox
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| 16 Sep 2009 08:39 PM |
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P.C. is on the road. lookin for some good water, good air and some big numbers. Don't be surprised if Amos and Lou get the red sled into the 4.40's. That's just plain scary!!! 4.53 in Augusta!!!!!!! sea level could be conducive to some fascinating runs!!! Be there or be square! |
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Duane Sims
aka "The Admin"
Posts:936
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| 16 Sep 2009 08:59 PM |
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From my conversations this past weekend Whiskey River is still not ready and since Jeff crashed he will obviously not be attending either.
Here is my list:
| TFH |
| Speed Sports Special |
| Spirit of Texas |
| Hot Licks Bullet |
| Problem Child |
| Toxic Rocket |
| TAH |
| Black Draggin |
| Meanstreak |
| What a Tomato |
| Pure Nasty |
| TAF |
| Habit Forming III |
| All Lit Up |
| Red Alert |
| Justice |
| Monster |
| PM |
| Freak Show |
| Top Secret |
| Alter Ego |
| Agent Orange |
| Livin Tha Dream |
| Excessive Force |
| Screamin Seaman |
| PCE |
| Hot Shot |
| Aw Sum Toy |
| Coyote Ugly |
| PE |
| Centsless |
| Smokin Aces |
| Animal Instinct |
| I'm Back Hot n Bothered |
| Rat Posion |
| Outa Control |
| TE |
| Blow'n Feathers |
| No Clue |
| No Respect |
| Shock Therapy |
| Spirit of Citation |
| Born Insanity |
| ME |
| Abracadabra |
| Topless |
| Whacker Smacker |
| Obnoxious Behavior |
| Psychopath |
| Wild Thiing 2 |
| SE |
| Wine Me Up |
| Wine Me Up |
| Just 4 Fun |
| Almost Stock White Lightning |
| Fade to Black |
| Honker |
| RR |
| Deserado |
| El Bandito |
| PWC 2 |
| El Bandito |
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joe caldwell
Rookie
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| 17 Sep 2009 06:23 PM |
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add me to the pwc2 class thanks. |
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scott cone
Old Timer
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| 19 Sep 2009 09:10 AM |
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any qualifying news for us yet and how are the water/wind conditions looking? |
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Duane Sims
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| 19 Sep 2009 10:59 AM |
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Jak Young
Gold Memeber
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| 19 Sep 2009 02:18 PM |
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Notice Laurie hasn't put up anything for PCE ... have they run today ... am interested how Dan Kirkman's running, Awe Some Toy #555 ....... |
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Duane Sims
aka "The Admin"
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| 19 Sep 2009 02:29 PM |
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Today has been slow with the crashes and all. There is only only PCE boat here and there was no index available. We have not seen Dan here. |
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Jak Young
Gold Memeber
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| 19 Sep 2009 02:39 PM |
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Thanks Duane. |
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Vince Nelson
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| 21 Sep 2009 07:25 AM |
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Duane and Laurie, thanks for keeping us in the loop!!! |
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Tod Thompson
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| 21 Sep 2009 03:40 PM |
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Sunday was a long dragged out drag of a day . Lucky for the fans Rockstar was there giving away free product I had around 10 of them and it seemed to do the trick . Congats to all the winners !! With that said the wrong boat was in the TFH final in all my years around this sport that was way wrong . I know rules are rules but good luck keeping fans coming with that kind of poop going on . If you went by Problem Child's pit it looked like a garage sale used parts a faded out trailer a big bad tired old semi a sponson on a hobby horse getting a repair from stuff bought at home depot and whatever else you may have seen . Oh and maybe you saw this ...... 4.56 ET @ 265 MPH !!!!!! If and only if Eddie and the hardest working crew in DBR had some dough who knows what would happen . If only for a race PC could sneak away one of those beautiful Spirit of Texas bullets man they have nice stuff . Racing is racing and results are results but Alan Johnson performance on an Arley Langlo budget....... PRICELESS !!!! Looking forward to Firebird aren't you ???? |
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Duane Sims
aka "The Admin"
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| 21 Sep 2009 05:47 PM |
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I have a strong feeling that the one paragraph in the new joint rule book will be better clearly defined next year. Doesn't change what the outcome was from this past weekend but hopefull prevent any clouded outcome in the future.
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joe caldwell
Rookie
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| 21 Sep 2009 05:59 PM |
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Just wanted to say thank you to all the good people that really really helped me out... I know from racing in the apba and ijsba that rookies and all of the questions they have can be a PIA. I hope I wasnt. Ill always remember my 11.316 run @ 84.32 mph. Running a river racer heads up. Thank you Elizabeth, Maria, Bob, Joe(river runner) Nancy, Tracy, Gary. Most of you were friendly and helpful. Others tolerated me and you could tell that was as far as it was going. The family that pitted next to us was always friendly and helpful. It was way cool running heads up against the 10 second boat as well... Thanks and you guys really ROCK! |
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Duane Sims
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| 21 Sep 2009 06:14 PM |
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Joe, sorry we did not get to meet but you have one bad ski. I watched your runs and they were remarkable, the funny part was that you got beat by the veterans with slower skis. Congrates on your efforts and hope to see you at the World Finals! |
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joe caldwell
Rookie
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| 21 Sep 2009 07:13 PM |
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Yep...I red lighted .077 in the semi finals against elizabeth. At least I lost to the champ...
Its hard running 40 mph more than her. trying to time the light and chase her down with a 7 to 8 second lead... I LOVED IT! Cant wait for finals. |
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Jak Young
Gold Memeber
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| 21 Sep 2009 07:34 PM |
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Crossing the Center Line on a Run is one thing ..... Going out of the lane away from the Center Line is totally a different matter, especially given the circumstance there at Bay Fair ........ a difinitive Rule Clarification is in order (in my opinion) ......... |
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Daryl Busby
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| 22 Sep 2009 11:05 AM |
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In NHRA if you hit the wall your out. If you cross the centerline your out. If you had this race in New Athens IL (where fuelers have ran) you would have been on the bank. The course is the course and that is what the rules say"If you go out side the course it is a Safety Infraction". The Spirit of Texas team have worked their collective butts off and had some REALLY crappy luck, and finally some luck came their way. It wasn't pretty and I know they didn't want to win a round that way.I also know they share the utmost respect and friendship with the Problem Child team. In short rules are rules. Sometimes they work in your favor and sometimes they don't.
Mr Young what if you had a beach with a grand stand of folks on the outside lane like in San Angelo would you feel different.
I would have rather seen a side by side run @4.60 as well but it didn't happen that way. Please don't deminish the accomplishments of both teams by this one round. |
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Eddie Knox
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| 22 Sep 2009 11:18 AM |
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That was definitely a bummer deal for us and hopefully we can define some different scenarios of the rule book. Ultimately we drove off the course and that was our own fault.
Another race given away this summer but as they say, "It's water under the props" now and we'll just have to suck it up and move on to Phoenix. I will say this though, she is one bad a$$ hot rod right now!!!! 4.56, 265 that's gotta be one hell of a ride!! |
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Daryl Busby
Posts:461
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| 22 Sep 2009 11:59 AM |
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Posted By Eddie Knox on 22 Sep 2009 12:18 PM
That was definitely a bummer deal for us and hopefully we can define some different scenarios of the rule book. Ultimately we drove off the course and that was our own fault.
Another race given away this summer but as they say, "It's water under the props" now and we'll just have to suck it up and move on to Phoenix. I will say this though, she is one bad a$$ hot rod right now!!!! 4.56, 265 that's gotta be one hell of a ride!!
Eddie, YES YOU DO!!!!!!!and the "Tour" goes on. Renee and I are going to Vegas the 14th-18th before the Finals would love to buy you some of that Japanise wine stuff....What do they call that? Yes you have created a monster. I have not had so much fun in a summer. Hanging out with you and the boys is tough. Hope to see ya in Vegas if not for sure in PHX. Buzz |
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Eddie Knox
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| 22 Sep 2009 02:39 PM |
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Daryl, i would love to share some Sake with you. Out teams have been the best of buds over the tour so there is no hard feelings. Just for fun though. In the NHRA if your car starts in gear before the lights are activated and shuts off 125' down the track what would they do?
That was just for fun so take it easy on me. Both lanes should have been red lit when a boat is floating in harms way!! |
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Duane Sims
aka "The Admin"
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| 22 Sep 2009 06:42 PM |
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To this day I still have not been able to get my hands on the new joint rule book to read and understand what they are.
The call this weekend did not go the way many of us interpret the rulebook, however I can say the IHBA did consult those involved with the new rulebook to clarify the paragraph the applied to the situation at hand.
Based from last year when Speed Sports started in gear and pulled the hold rope down in efforts not to red light is one thing, from what I understand Scotty let go of the hold rope almost immediately to avoid this type of situation therefore he red light by breaking the start beam.
In defense on the other side this could have created an unsafe situation, more or less caused the miss alignment of the planned launch which could add to why the boat went outside the lane. (Yes I know crossing the lane either in or out is a DQ and worse than a red light)
Now for the other part, the race was won when the other lane red lit, it should have been break the beam and take the win to save parts. (Sometimes you have to forget about records and the show)
Now for the ideas…
How can the rule book be written to clarify this scenario?
Should the boat that starts in gear be DQ or should the course be red lit?
We are looking for your feedback.
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RON PITTS
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| 22 Sep 2009 09:07 PM |
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Daryl Busby
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| 23 Sep 2009 05:16 AM |
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If the clock has been activated it is a live course. Flashing ambers is activated. I thought the count down had actually been down to around 6 or 5 when the boat broke the beam. The SLDBA clock actually starts a countdown on the flashing ambers (the countdown starts at 19 and not 10) so what would be the difference if I were to red light by.001 or by 3.0. It is still considered a red light. If you try to write a rule for every possible scenerio your book would be huge. I think the officials made a good deceision to review the film footage, speak with the officals on the water, and pull in both team to discuss the issue before making a deceision. |
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Tod Thompson
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| 23 Sep 2009 06:21 AM |
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With all that behind us how about that Speed Sport deal that is one consistent hot rod !!!! I thought we we going to lose her on Saturday that beauty was a hopping !!!! |
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Eddie Knox
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| 23 Sep 2009 08:15 AM |
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Daryl,
your right about that. A lot of consideration was given before a decision was made, I'll give them a lot of credit for that. The weird part was that they couldn't produce a time slip. Truth of the matter is we shouldn't have drove off the course!! |
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Scott Burrows
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| 23 Sep 2009 08:24 AM |
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1st, I wasn't there and don't know all the facts and cudos to Scotty Lumbert for letting go.
2nd, this is strictly my thoughts about this type of situation in general, and does not reflect any opinions on an official level.
It looks like they followed the rulebook as it is currently written. A safety violation supersedes a foul start, period. The defenition of a foul start is the problem. IMHO, when a boat starts in gear, to the point that he cannot hold onto the rope without disrupting the other boats, it is a safety violation and not merely a foul start. He should be DQ'd and the course should be redlit. Nothing good ever comes out of that situation.
Case and point. A couple years ago a TFH started in gear and decided to take off very early, after the tree was activated. The boat in the other lane waited and ran on a green light. He came very close to crashing when he hit the wake created by the 1st boat, 20+ seconds earlier. There is a good photo of the boat hitting the roller somewhere around here. I think it was Toxic Rocket but I can't remember which boat started in gear. This has happenened on many occasions to varying degrees. It really stinks when one starts in gear a drags the rope, barge, and other boats, to the point where damage is done. It should not be tolerated and should be strongly discouraged, but it would require an ammendment to the rules.
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John Flores
Old Timer
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| 23 Sep 2009 11:33 AM |
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Posted By Duane Sims on 22 Sep 2009 07:42 PM
To this day I still have not been able to get my hands on the new joint rule book to read and understand what they are.
Duane,
FYI - rulebooks have been available at registration and at the IHBA semi since they were completed. They are also available online at the IHBA website under 2009 rules.
I am sure that had you asked Nancy, myself or one of the other staff members we would have made you aware of how to obtain one.
Hope this helps.
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Neil Emig
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| 23 Sep 2009 04:11 PM |
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Duane,
If one boat starts in gear and breaks the beam with a red light doesn't the boat in the other lane still have to break the beam in a given amount of time to take the win? What if that other boat can't do that, I think the red light lane still gets the win. I believe I saw this happen at a race in the past. Is that the starters call? |
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kent price
Pro Racer
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| 24 Sep 2009 07:27 AM |
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would like to thank ihba rescue number one with a bullet...thanx guys...kent |
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Duane Sims
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| 25 Sep 2009 06:08 PM |
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Kent, really glad you are doing well and walked away from the crash and you made a statement afterwards that will be remembered by all: Gary, so Kent you got a black eye from the sudden stop of the capsule… Kent: no that was from my wife for crashing!!! God bless you. Look forward to seeing you at the world Finals. |
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Duane Sims
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| 25 Sep 2009 06:20 PM |
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Neil in the scenatio you descibed to me it is straight forward. The other boat has 5 seconds to break the beam under its own power. So this means no paddling, but in gear with the starter in engage counts!!!
Posted By Neil Emig on 23 Sep 2009 05:11 PM
Duane,
If one boat starts in gear and breaks the beam with a red light doesn't the boat in the other lane still have to break the beam in a given amount of time to take the win? What if that other boat can't do that, I think the red light lane still gets the win. I believe I saw this happen at a race in the past. Is that the starters call?
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Duane Sims
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| 25 Sep 2009 06:32 PM |
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Posted By John Flores on 23 Sep 2009 12:33 PM
Posted By Duane Sims on 22 Sep 2009 07:42 PM
To this day I still have not been able to get my hands on the new joint rule book to read and understand what they are.
Duane,
FYI - rulebooks have been available at registration and at the IHBA semi since they were completed. They are also available online at the IHBA website under 2009 rules.
I am sure that had you asked Nancy, myself or one of the other staff members we would have made you aware of how to obtain one.
Hope this helps.
See you in Phoenix,
Cathy Flores
As you may recall our conversation in Riverside I asked and was told there was a limited amout printed... if it's now available for download great. |
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