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Last Post 31 Dec 2008 09:08 PM by Jimmy Todd. 16 Replies.
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Jim Birmingham Crew Crew Send Private Message Posts:9 Jim Birmingham
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22 Dec 2008 12:01 PM
Ok I will say it like it was said on the other forum. I dont want to imply or start rumors.

What is this about IHBA being sold? I have heard something about a big announcement at the World Finals, but nothing really came of that.

Someone did say that Lucas Oil was going to take over but once again no one really knows anything.
 
Any of you guys out on the left coast heard about any of this?

Geral Laney Send Private Message Posts:210 Geral Laney
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27 Dec 2008 10:26 AM
I heard EK finally had enough of being treated so fairly that he decided to buy the IHBA so he could screw with himself.
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Gary Payne Crew Crew Send Private Message Posts:18 Gary Payne
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27 Dec 2008 01:24 PM
Posted By Geral Laney on 12/27/2008 10:26 AM
I heard EK finally had enough of being treated so fairly that he decided to buy the IHBA so he could screw with himself.


Now, that's funny.....I don't care who you are......

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Jimmy Todd Send Private Message Posts:220 Jimmy Todd
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27 Dec 2008 08:41 PM
Hey Birmingham, rather then start some $hit that does not need starting, I think you saw the answer to your pot stirring on the other site just like you saw the opening question. To steal a phrase from Braaksma.....MY GOD MAN......

Jt
I am the luckiest guy alive..Great kids, great job, great friends and a GREAT Wife......
Eddie Knox Send Private Message Posts:1044 Eddie Knox
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28 Dec 2008 11:41 AM
Geral,
once again you have cracked me up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By the way, with all of that expendable cash flying around out there, anyone care to purchase a slightly used TFH operation???? No reasonable offer refused. Hell, no offer refused!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Jim Birmingham Crew Crew Send Private Message Posts:9 Jim Birmingham
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29 Dec 2008 10:36 AM
Well lets see JT
1. I didnt start the topic over there.
2. At the time I started the topic here, there hadn't been any answers there. That of its self was strange.
3. Things seemed strange that SDBA would schedule a race on top of Marble Falls. Implication something up at IHBA.
4. After reading the repies to date I hear "No its not been sold" NO WHERE do I read NO ITS NOT FOR SALE. Hence the original question remains unanswered, sort of. In Scotty's opinon if the price is right. As with most of us.
5. Most other major associations have posted "tentitive schedules". The only thing I found on IHBA was the Marble Falls website with their 2009 plans. Kudos to their webmaster and the promoter for gettin' er' done.
6. I stayed out of stirring anything here or there. I was looking for Information.


Vince Nelson Send Private Message Posts:1019 Vince Nelson
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29 Dec 2008 03:15 PM
Well I have talked to a few and it seems that it's just a rumor. I have heard that Marble Falls, the two Phoenix races, San Diego and Dexter at this point are happening on the west coast, not sure about the others. Chowchilla and Redbluff are still in the hands of the beholder.
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John Flores Old Timer Old Timer Send Private Message Posts:48 John Flores
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29 Dec 2008 05:19 PM
Posted By Jim Birmingham on 12/29/2008 10:36 AM
Well lets see JT
1. I didnt start the topic over there.
2. At the time I started the topic here, there hadn't been any answers there. That of its self was strange.
3. Things seemed strange that SDBA would schedule a race on top of Marble Falls. Implication something up at IHBA.
4. After reading the repies to date I hear "No its not been sold" NO WHERE do I read NO ITS NOT FOR SALE. Hence the original question remains unanswered, sort of. In Scotty's opinon if the price is right. As with most of us.
5. Most other major associations have posted "tentitive schedules". The only thing I found on IHBA was the Marble Falls website with their 2009 plans. Kudos to their webmaster and the promoter for gettin' er' done.
6. I stayed out of stirring anything here or there. I was looking for Information.



New Idea -- if you want info about IHBA call the office 505-869-0005.
Just talked to Nancy and with all this BS going on - few have called to find out the true story.  Fact vs. fiction.
Tim Kelley Gold Memeber Gold Memeber Send Private Message Posts:57 Tim Kelley
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30 Dec 2008 11:52 AM
Just a little clarification, I just got off the phone with Nancy (IHBA) and she confirmed that IHBA has not been sold, and it is not for sale!  The reason the schedule is not posted yet is because they are waiting for confirmation on the California races. 

Hope this clears things up!

Everyone have a Happy & Safe New Year!!!!!
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Bob Prigmore Send Private Message Posts:406 Bob Prigmore
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30 Dec 2008 02:12 PM
Posted By Jim Birmingham on 12/29/2008 10:36 AM
Well lets see JT
1. I didnt start the topic over there.
2. At the time I started the topic here, there hadn't been any answers there. That of its self was strange.
3. Things seemed strange that SDBA would schedule a race on top of Marble Falls. Implication something up at IHBA.
4. After reading the repies to date I hear "No its not been sold" NO WHERE do I read NO ITS NOT FOR SALE. Hence the original question remains unanswered, sort of. In Scotty's opinon if the price is right. As with most of us.
5. Most other major associations have posted "tentitive schedules". The only thing I found on IHBA was the Marble Falls website with their 2009 plans. Kudos to their webmaster and the promoter for gettin' er' done.
6. I stayed out of stirring anything here or there. I was looking for Information.



1 & 2, like scotty said and nancy told me, ihba isn't sold, they aren't actively trying to sell, and are planning on '09 with no intentions to sell.  realistically, if you look at it there's very little equipment that would be involved - a few trucks, trailers and boats.  the big deal would be the name and the ability to use all that stuff to put on a race, which some individuals seem to believe is the easy part (not).  and, like scotty said, everything is for sale at the right price.  

3 & 4,  in september, i was told by a frequent and influential sdba person that hates charlie and ihba (and is not shy about it), that there was a high probability there wouldn't be an ihba race in marble falls this year.  i was told this while sitting in my boat next to him on a rope.  when i questioned this further, i got no response, other than an invitation to race sdba.  
it's very apparent to me that there are a couple people influential within their clubs, less than a handful, that utilize whatever influence they have to manipulate club activities to expressly undermine ihba, as though it would be better for the clubs if ihba disolved.  these are generally good people, but can't see the forest for the trees.  purposely scheduling club races on top is just another tactic. 
i've always felt this is just bad for dragboat racing, no matter what the reasoning.  it's understood that limited water availability creates the situation.  but when clubs purposely seek overlapping dates, imo, they're trying to kill the sport. 

5.   njba has not posted a schedule, and most likely won't until very late january or, most likely, february.  there schedule is based on kern county approving the dates requested.  plus, although their website says nothing about it, they are trying to get everything aligned to have a race at elsinore.  they don't want to put a "tentative" thing out there because some people might start setting their schedules up, and it could be turned completely upside down at a later date.

6.  i've read all the crap on the other site.  i'm not even going to respond to all of it, but i will say a couple things.  every place i've gone, there have been issues/challenges to the organization putting on the race. 

i've had good/thorough tech inspections, and i've had flybys inspections.  over 9 years, there've been two occasions where ihba tech people pulled some real cs crap with me because they were "important", so i just did what i had to to "please" them, but guess what, they're no longer around and good riddance.  whether they were still around or not, i'd still be racing rather than bitching.  i've also had inspectors charge me $5.00 for a stupid med-tag at njba - they're no longer around either, and i've raced there for many years since then.  

there were problems with njba's brand new system at the nationals that caused us to sit on the rope for over half an hour, sitc had timing system issues - so what, that stuff happens everywhere.  and it seems that don bauscher got over his issues with charlie's comment, since he raced with ihba this year.    and yes, i've had charley get snarly with me once, when i asked the wrong question at the wrong time, but 5 minutes later we were good.  every other time i've ever asked him anything, he's been polite and cordial, and the few times i needed help, he did everything he could to be helpful.  

the only time i've -ever- been verbally attacked was at an njba event by a board member.  does that make me an njba hater? hell no, it makes me feel sorry for the idiot that attacked me, and all the people sitting around that got an earful of me responding (who i apologized to). 

nobody ever said dragboat racing is cheap or easy.  people make their own decisions whether or not to race.  if small/minor crap becomes so overwhelming that people just can't get past it, they probably shouldn't race.  it's still  no justifiable reason to try and undermine or kill any organization...   



  

     
RON PITTS Send Private Message Posts:416 RON PITTS
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30 Dec 2008 04:08 PM
Posted By bp on 12/30/2008 2:12 PM
Posted By Jim Birmingham on 12/29/2008 10:36 AM
Well lets see JT
1. I didnt start the topic over there.
2. At the time I started the topic here, there hadn't been any answers there. That of its self was strange.
3. Things seemed strange that SDBA would schedule a race on top of Marble Falls. Implication something up at IHBA.
4. After reading the repies to date I hear "No its not been sold" NO WHERE do I read NO ITS NOT FOR SALE. Hence the original question remains unanswered, sort of. In Scotty's opinon if the price is right. As with most of us.
5. Most other major associations have posted "tentitive schedules". The only thing I found on IHBA was the Marble Falls website with their 2009 plans. Kudos to their webmaster and the promoter for gettin' er' done.
6. I stayed out of stirring anything here or there. I was looking for Information.





5.   njba has not posted a schedule, and most likely won't until very late january or, most likely, february.  there schedule is based on kern county approving the dates requested.  plus, although their website says nothing about it, they are trying to get everything aligned to have a race at elsinore.  they don't want to put a "tentative" thing out there because some people might start setting their schedules up, and it could be turned completely upside down at a later date.



  

     
AS long as NJBA doesn't stack a race on the same date as San Diego again this year,things will be cool.

RON PITTS Send Private Message Posts:416 RON PITTS
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30 Dec 2008 04:08 PM
A SDBA race the same weekend as Marble Falls is not a good thing.
Jimmy Todd Send Private Message Posts:220 Jimmy Todd
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30 Dec 2008 06:09 PM
SDBA ahs been doing that for as long as I can remember, even BEFORE the IHBA was "for sale"...Like BP said so eloquently, who does this type of behavior benefit?

Birmingham, did you get your answer now?

Jt
I am the luckiest guy alive..Great kids, great job, great friends and a GREAT Wife......
Jim Birmingham Crew Crew Send Private Message Posts:9 Jim Birmingham
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30 Dec 2008 09:18 PM
Yep got it.

That stops the rumors and says it loud and clear.

Tentative dates would still be nice though....

But then some people don't understand the meaning of Tentative, done been around that one already.
Jimmy Todd Send Private Message Posts:220 Jimmy Todd
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31 Dec 2008 12:29 AM
Amen..!!!!!!!!!!
I am the luckiest guy alive..Great kids, great job, great friends and a GREAT Wife......
Paul Hosler Send Private Message Posts:677 Paul Hosler
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31 Dec 2008 11:24 AM

What?

Did someone just say that IHBA is for sale?

Who is this JT guy anyway, and why's he always starting $hi*?

Geez I crack myself up.  Hey JT, you working the Rose Bowl again?  We'll be watching the tube and will be looking for your cute little smile on the sidelines.  Best damn flattbottom driver medic in the country!  You going to wear that SDBA sweatshirt again this year?

Paul Hosler
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Jimmy Todd Send Private Message Posts:220 Jimmy Todd
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31 Dec 2008 09:08 PM
You got that right Paul. Yes I will be the I.C. at the Rosebowl this year and will by flying the SDBA banner.

I hope all is well with you and yours, say Hi to my Girlfriend for me.....Take care, Jt
I am the luckiest guy alive..Great kids, great job, great friends and a GREAT Wife......
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