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Scott Burrows Send Private Message Posts:1444 Scott Burrows
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22 Jul 2008 07:27 PM

Geral, that's what I'm talking about.

V average = D/T

660ft / 1.64 = 402 ft/s x 3600s (1 hour) / 5280 ft (1 mile) = 274 MPH.

Eddy, here are SS's numbers in the other lane on Sat's 2nd round.

TFH   7 Speed Sport Special John Haas 0.059 2.984 200.89 4.95 241.5



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Dave Glass Gold Memeber Gold Memeber Send Private Message Posts:114 Dave Glass
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23 Jul 2008 06:31 AM

I have to agree with Eddie, We both ran 2.8'S both in the 207 to 211 range to the 1/8th in Chowchilla, We ran 5.07 with the belt off at 1100 feet, Eddie ran 4.80 out the back. Look at SS 1/8th  2.98 at 4.95 et  DONT GET ME WRONG, Roger and the LQ boys did an awsome job. Roger has that thing running like a rocket. Just my thoughts.



Dave Glass
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Scott Burrows Send Private Message Posts:1444 Scott Burrows
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23 Jul 2008 08:00 AM

Did anyone get a finish line photo? I know Mark was just short of it.

Here are the numbers from Q2;

TFH   7 Speed Sport Special John Haas 0.059 2.984 200.89 4.95 241.5
TFH   131 Liquid Quiker Ron McLellan 0.472 2.956 202.42 4.593 ???

 

SS's M.O.V. is 0.056.

241.5 MPH = 354.2 ft/s

352.4 ft/s x 0.056 = 19.8 ft M.O.V.

Of course if LQ was travelling at the speeds mentioned that, M.O.V. could be as high as 22.5ft



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John Haas Pro Racer Pro Racer Send Private Message Posts:43 John Haas
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23 Jul 2008 08:23 AM
Hey scott go watch the video on the other site and tell me how you can say that. Also ask Hoss who was down the river the furthest.The white boat never went past the red boat and it is quite evident in the video where the white boat is. John Haas


Scott Burrows Send Private Message Posts:1444 Scott Burrows
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23 Jul 2008 08:40 AM

Hey John. I hadn't seen the video until now. That's why I asked if anyone had a finish line photo.

The video is taken from past the inramp, probably near the Port Authority building and gives a very deceiving angle. If you freeze frame it, where you can see the finish line buoys, it looks like he had closed the gap a bunch, considering you had a .357 jump on him.

You are correct. You ended up way down course from him. That white boat shuts down incredibly fast, and did it on all his runs.



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John Haas Pro Racer Pro Racer Send Private Message Posts:43 John Haas
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23 Jul 2008 10:08 AM
Scott you can freeze frame that or do what ever you like. My chute is pulled in the traps and there is know where in that video or two others thatI have watched that the white boat is even close.You guys can do the math all you want but the truth is in that video.The final round just tells the story all the more.With all of that said congrats to the LQ guys for a good win. John Haas


Scott Burrows Send Private Message Posts:1444 Scott Burrows
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23 Jul 2008 10:35 AM

John, I'm not bagging on anybody or taking sides, just trying to analyze a pretty significant event with some incomplete data.


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John Haas Pro Racer Pro Racer Send Private Message Posts:43 John Haas
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23 Jul 2008 11:44 AM
I undestand Scott It is not about that and nothing we could prove will change the out come.These pictures you have posted just confirm it all the more.Look at the last photo you can see Im out of the throttle and where is the white boat.You take my rt advantge and do the math the white boat should be long past me.I also dont think IHBA or anyone is trying to pull a fast one what would be there gain but I do beleive there was a malfunction with the timing nothing computes to 4.58 or does anything show that other than the timing board.That boat and that team are capable of those numbers but anyone looking at the facts will see there is somthing not right. John Haas


Scott Burrows Send Private Message Posts:1444 Scott Burrows
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23 Jul 2008 12:20 PM

I hear you John. After that run on Sat, I was one of the biggest skeptics, until he virtually duplicated the numbers on Sunday. What are the odds of a random error happening to the same boat, on seperate days, in different lanes, with almost identical numbers.

I will reserve judgement until some more compelling photos come out, if they exist.



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Greg Lawrence Fan Fan Send Private Message Posts:4 Greg Lawrence
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23 Jul 2008 07:55 PM

Anybody notice that SS 4.95 minus reaction time advantage of .357 equals LQ 4.593? Coincidence?.... Oops, doing the math it looks like a .413 advantage. wouldn't that  mean SS finished first?

 



John Haas Pro Racer Pro Racer Send Private Message Posts:43 John Haas
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24 Jul 2008 03:12 AM
Greg With out question we were at the finish line first.The question is all those numbers that close we should have been side by side in the lights. John Haas


John Haas Pro Racer Pro Racer Send Private Message Posts:43 John Haas
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24 Jul 2008 04:29 AM
If you use the information given by the clocks we had a .049 advange at the finish line.Who are you going to believe clocks cant be wrong so it must be our lieing eyes. John Haas


Geral Laney Send Private Message Posts:210 Geral Laney
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24 Jul 2008 04:35 AM

 See you in MF



Geral Laney
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John Haas Pro Racer Pro Racer Send Private Message Posts:43 John Haas
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24 Jul 2008 06:29 AM
It has been a good chat and everyone has been civil .I want to keep all my drag boat friends . So with that being said it is what it is and Im done with it. John Haas


Tod Thompson Send Private Message Posts:294 Tod Thompson
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24 Jul 2008 04:44 PM
LQ Looking forward to seeing you in San Diego where hopefully the MPH clocks will work and we can see what white lightening is all about . SS and John, according to the photos posted you should of been popping the champagne and eating the boiled peanuts at the end of the day . Once again looking forward to seeing LQ in SD to quite the masses . One footnote watch out for PC .


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Sam Stacks Old Timer Old Timer Send Private Message Posts:29 Sam Stacks
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24 Jul 2008 06:42 PM

Does anyone know if Ron and Bob will race in MF? If so maybe we could have us a little grudge match and just see what they can do. I know that SS has laid down consistant numbers all year and then come to MF and continue laying down those same numbers. And as most of you know MF is a little tougher than some because of the high temp and the high humidity.  So if LQ has found the right set up, then they should be able to come to MF and continue laying down the numbers, as the SS crew has done the last 2 years they have been here in MF. Good luck to all and hope to see everyone in a few weeks.



Michael Chance Fan Fan Send Private Message Posts:1 Michael Chance
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28 Jul 2008 12:28 PM

Here are a few youtube vids of LQ and his runs.  They looked extremely quick/fast, wow!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD2zS8xAWmg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b4sEtPNw4c

Enjoy!



tracy graves Fan Fan Send Private Message Posts:1 tracy graves
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02 Aug 2008 02:59 PM

EGOcutioner you're busted ya big headed jackass

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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