Just my 2 pennies,

The purpose of the class per Fegan was to build up the classes that were flailing. PGF was dwindling in numbers as was BGF, CH, etc etc. The class was suppose to give a place to run if you didnt have 6 boats. Then build up the boats to have a stand alone class again.  It was also designed to save prize money and put it into one class and not have to pay out several classes. Then it turned into a sandbagging class. The indexes used for each class have been atrocious! The classes that already had records established were screwed. That is why you have not seen them win anything unless something unfortunate happened. PLF never had an index to go off of in the beginning so it had an advantage. PLH is the same story. This is why these are the only two classes to win championships. Plus the 7.70 rule has put a grip on the class. When you cant run quicker than 7.70 what is the only logical thing to do? Answer: Start a class that has never had an index, Set the index miles away from 7.70,  sandbag like crazy and only lower the index when absolutley necessary. PLH and PLF

Not against the rules but completely against the spirit of the class.

Cole I agree that the class is designed around Comp Eliminator. But the indexes need to be adjusted to the new classes that were started.

 As far as all the other stuff going on with motors and specs, you guys are on your own

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Ha that's funny scotty!!!  Now I know!!

Cole, that's not a bad idea right there.  I'm real close to going back already!!!  Just want to go out and have a good time, well I do that anyways!!!  How's the new boat coming along?

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2005 IHBA Top Eliminator DIV 1 World Champ

Bottom line you don't need a good engine to run and be in the class as Lipinski and Pitts have proven.  Also The Mechanical Duck is on the list for PCE for SD.  He said he put it on gas and is going after the front runners of the class!  You guys are screwed! 

Hey Vince the new boat is coming along nicely.  We are actually going to run it in PCE.  I've talk alot with IHBA and we came up with a new class that I will be competive in.  Its Unlimited Modified Production Stock Capsuled Flat, its based on a 10.33 index.  I'm going to run my Pro Gas engine that I made 632 cid, we tested back east and it ran 7.14 with a 500 shot of NOS.  I'm pretty confident that we should be competive with the front runners you know if I can cut a light.  But we'll see! 

The boat is looking good its a lot of work building our own everything!  We're hoping for a world finals debut but only time and $$$ will tell.  I need a sponsor bad! 

Ya Cole I would have to say that you may be competitive!!!   Run a 7 flat on saturday for #1 and 10 flat on sunday!!! See ya at the finals!!!

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2005 IHBA Top Eliminator DIV 1 World Champ

More classes??going to = more confusion.IMO they ought to cut it down to pgf,cf,bgf,pgh,ch,bgj,cj,taj..and go from there.The class has a good pay out though which makes it easier to build a boat for a special class to win.glad i aint running it this year or driving a boat any more.

Although i wish i could have ran against more flats i do have to say cole did bring the best out of me last year cause he was tough to get pastand i had no choice but to give it all i had.BUt that was the only flat i got to race.Would have been nice to go head to head at phx since our indexes were very close 7.82 to 7.85.

And i didnt sandbag just got faster with more seat time started out at 8.10 went to 7.82

see you all who make it to sd i will be walking around with beers in hand

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Whos Cheatin Who #004 pce(ihba),comp flat(njba)for 06 season

Isn't this San Diego Roll Call?

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I learned it ALL from Don Crisp....Pass the JOSE!!

I agree!!!!

I thought Pro Limited class was the hot rod lake boat. With a big cam and factory production heads or their equivalent with no porting.. When I built my engine in 03, it was built to the PLH specs. It's a GM. What has changed? Some one give me a gear and prop combo to tun this class, I my be willing to step up to it in Div. 3.

Tim I think you are missing the point of the class, PCE is about as far from being an entry level class as they gets.  The boats that run (or most) have tons of potential and if given the chance could run way under the index they have.  Its unfortunant that a boat that hauls a$$ will 9 times out of 10 get beat by a boat that runs a second or 2 slower.  However that is the name of the game.  Myself I like running all out, however that wont win you many races in PCE.  Lipinski and Pitts have a good thing going for themselves.  I'm willing to bet they will go far in eliminations next sunday.  Its just funny that people get pissed off about sandbagging when every single person in the class has done it to an extent. 

Can we get back to the original question, and move this other crap to another topic?

Cole, what I meant, that Pro Limited was an entry level for PCE. From the last rule book I've got, you couldn't do much to the engine. I've heard theres been changes, but not exactly sure as to what. I guess I need to get a more up dated book.

Hey admin. You saved me the trouble of scanning that. Did you do it manual feed or with the tray feeder? Every other page is upside down. LMAO.

Sorry Admin1 didn't mean to hijack..                                                                                                                                                                                                          Frank Nagore                                                                                     

Hey Scotty,

My bad admin!!!!  Do you happen to have an updated list?

can't wait til friday!